the quandry:

we need the conservatives to succeed, particularly in iraq. if they don't, the middle east is fucked, we're fucked, the world is fucked. a moderate, liberalized iraq (liberal as in secular government, civil liberties, etc., stuff most conservatives believe in too) is the best hope for saving the middle east from fundamentalist islam. on the other hand, if the we succeed, the conservative success in iraq furthers their cause, and the liberals lose. we need to win in iraq, but that victory hurts our (the liberals) cause.

even if the conservatives are right on foreign policy in this instance, it doesn't mean their policies will be anymore right anywhere else. not that it will matter; victory in iraq will probably mean 50 years of fundamentalist "my God is bigger than your God" christianity and corporate rule at the expense of the populace and the environment.

conservatives accuse liberals of rooting for failure in the middle east. you know what, i would if i had that luxury, but i don't. the fact is that victory in iraq is so important, so utterly necessary, that it has to be done if we're to have any hope of defeating the threat of islamic terrorism and jihad.

so stop complaining about the liberals and let your leaders win the damn war.